Testimony for PA Senate Democratic Appropriations Committee Public Hearing on Medicaid Expansion, March 8, 2013

Good morning. Thank you for conducting this session and for inviting me to speak. I am Dr. Chris Hughes, state director for Doctors for America, a nation-wide group of physicians advocating for high quality, affordable health care for all. I have been an intensive care physician for my entire career, now approaching 25 years, and within the past year I have also begun practicing hospice and palliative medicine. I am a former Trustee of the Pennsylvania Medical Society and Chair of the Patient Safety Committee. I have completed graduate studies in health policy at Thomas Jefferson University, and I am now teaching there, in the Graduate School of Population Health.

I tell you this to let you know that I can get down in the weeds with you about the nuts and bolts of implementation of the Affordable Care Act, and I know a fair amount about health care financing, access, cost shifting, and all the rest. But you have fine panelists assembled here today who have been doing this for you, and I know you all know your way around these topics as well. That’s why you’re here.

I am here as a physician and a representative of my profession. Every doctor you know, and every nurse and pharmacist and social worker and everyone in the front lines of health care, for that matter, can tell you stories of how our health care system has failed someone. Our system fails people regularly, and often spectacularly, and often cruelly, day in, day out.

I’ve had patients who work full time in jobs that fall far short of the American dream. They get by, but they can’t afford health insurance.

I’ll give you a few of my patients’ stories here, not just to point out the obvious- that we are mistreating our fellow human beings – but that we are misspending countless dollars on the wrong end of the system.

There’s the cabbie who recognizes his diabetes and determines to work harder and longer so he can buy insurance before he is stricken with the label even worse than diabetes: preexisting condition! He doesn’t make it and ends up in the ICU with diabetic ketoacidosis.

There’s the construction worker who has a controllable seizure disorder that goes uncontrolled because he can’t afford to go to the doctor. He ends up in the ICU, on a ventilator – life support – multiple times.

There’s the woman who stays home to care for her dying mother and loses her insurance along with her job. When her mother is gone and she finally gets to a doctor for herself, her own cancer is far advanced. She goes on hospice herself.

The laid-off engineer whose cough turns bloody for months and months before he “accesses” the health care system – through the Emergency room and my ICU with already far advanced cancer.

Shona’s attendant, of course. [Shona Eakin, Executive Director of Voices for Independence, in her earlier testimony.]

These are people who are doing the right thing – working, caring for family members – and still have to go begging for health care. How many hours does an American have to work to “deserve” health care? 40? 50? 60? We, as a society, are telling these people that their work, their lives, are not valuable enough to deserve access to health care until they meet some standard of employment in a job that has health insurance.

While doing some research on Medicare cost savings, I ran across a paper from US Sen. Tom Coburn with this quote: "Medicaid is a particular burden on states, consuming on average 22 percent of state budgets." I don’t quibble with the number, I quibble with the mindset that leads one to think that the suffering of millions is a non-factor in the decision making. And the fate of patients is not mentioned in his paper.

Not long ago, expanding access to health care was a nonpartisan goal. As recently as 2007, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators, including Republicans Jim DeMint and Trent Lott, ( let me repeat that, “Jim DeMint and Trent Lott” ) wrote a letter to then-President George W. Bush pointing out that our health care system was in urgent need of repair. "Further delay is unacceptable as costs continue to skyrocket, our population ages and chronic illness increases. In addition, our businesses are at a severe disadvantage when their competitors in the global market get health care for ‘free.’ "

Their No. 1 priority? It was to "Ensure that all Americans would have affordable, quality, private health coverage, while protecting current government programs. We believe the health care system cannot be fixed without providing solutions for everyone. Otherwise, the costs of those without insurance will continue to be shifted to those who do have coverage."

Medicaid expansion and the Affordable Care Act will get us closer to this than at any time in our history.

You will hear some physicians speak out against all of this. But what you generally will not hear is their leadership and organizations speaking out against it, except perhaps in the deep south. There is a reason for this. As leaders of our profession, we have to come to terms with the idea that we are not just in it for ourselves. We are in it for our profession as well, and that means we have to put our patients’ interests above our own, and that means we have to do our best to ensure that everyone has access to high quality, affordable health care. Don’t just take my word for it. The American Board of Internal Medicine Foundation and other organizations put together a Charter on Medical Professionalism about ten years ago, specifically making this, fair distribution of health care resources, a part of our professional responsibility. If you go to their website, you will find that virtually every physician organization you can think of has endorsed it. That means the anesthesiologists and orthopedic surgeons as well as the pediatricians and the family practitioners.

For Medicaid expansion specifically, we should note here that the major national physician organizations, including the AMA, and the organizations representing internists, family practice, pediatricians, psychiatry and more, all endorse Medicaid expansion. On the state level, all of these organizations state chapters endorse it as well, with the exception of the Pennsylvania Medical Society, which I am chagrined to say, has endorsed general terms of expansion only.

But this concept is really not controversial among physicians and health care providers. We see everything from the catastrophes to the small indignities. They are tragic, unnecessary, and we are on the road to ending them.

Some in the provider community have expressed concerns about Medicaid in particular as the way we are providing access, so I would like to take a moment to address the concerns we hear most often.

First, that Medicaid is “bad” insurance. What is bad about Medicaid is largely fixed in the ACA. Namely, it is very poorly reimbursed for providers. You’ve already heard from others why hospitals want it, why advocates want it, but for providers in primary care, the frontlines of health care, they get a major boost in reimbursement under the new law. Pennsylvania has historically had awful reimbursement in the Medicaid program, among the worst in the nation. Now, reimbursement will go to par with Medicare reimbursement, a huge incentive for providers to take on Medicaid patients whom they may have been reluctant to see previously. There are other new innovations such as Patient Centered Medical Homes, the new Medicaid Health Homes (which, by the way, we have also not begun implementing in PA – maybe another panel?), and other innovations, coming down the pike, that should really give people who previously had no chance at excellent care, a chance to avoid complications, avoid the ER and avoid the hospital. To live in good health.

I’ve also heard the strange claim that having Medicaid is worse than having no insurance. I suppose that in a vacuum where there is no good data, and where one sees, like I do, patients with no insurance or Medicaid, who don’t know how or aren’t able to access a doctor, you could look at patients who get very sick and mistake that association and attribute that to Medicaid, but we do have data now. In Oregon, due to a fairly bizarre set of circumstances a few years ago, Medicaid eligibility was determined by lottery, creating a natural experiment of haves and have-nots. In the first year, those who were enrolled were 70 percent more likely to have a usual source of care, were 55 percent more likely to see the same doctor over time, received 30 percent more hospital care and received 35 percent more outpatient care, and much more. Incidentally, I heard a cable talking head complain about the Oregon data because it didn’t examine outcomes, such as deaths and such. A fair point if we had more than a year’s worth of data! I, and most other health professionals, would argue that the results they have seen already are impressive and worthwhile in and of themselves.

People often ask me why I am so passionate about this, and I always tell them, “I blame the nuns.” Growing up Catholic, there was nothing so drilled into me as Matthew 25. We used to sing a hymn based on it, “Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers,” on a regular basis at Mass. And we went to Mass before school every day!

It turns out this is a pretty universal sentiment. I checked. Go to the websites of every mainstream religious denomination – Anglican, Methodist, Mormon, you name it – and it will be in there somewhere: The Social Gospel and Social Justice. Dignity of the individual. Our duties to the less fortunate. It is part of our national Judeo-Christian heritage, and a component of every major religion and philosophy in the world, with one notable exception – Ayn Rand’s. And I mention Ayn Rand and her most famous book, Atlas Shrugged, because it is perennially listed as the second most influential book in America, after the Bible. A damning fact for us.

In spite of that, I am glad that social justice and a commitment to the fair distribution of our health care resources is integral to the sense of duty of my profession, the nursing profession and all health professions.

I often say that I encourage debate about how we get to universal health care, but I refuse to accept that America, alone among all modern nations, and Pennsylvania in particular, will reject the idea that we need to get there.

A final thought from health care economist Uwe Reinhardt, regarding all of the reasons given about why we cannot achieve universal health care; he says, “Go tell God why you cannot do this. He will laugh at you,”

Right now, Medicaid expansion, the Health Insurance Exchanges and many other components of the Affordable Care Act are our best hope. Let’s not squander it.

Thank You.

Health care for all: Expanding Medicaid would save lives, suffering and money – Pittsburgh Post-Gazette – Printer friendly

Health care for all: Expanding Medicaid would save lives, suffering and money – Pittsburgh Post-Gazette – Printer friendly

My Piece on Medicaid expansion from the P-G:

Health care for all: Expanding Medicaid would save lives, suffering and money

One of the most common questions I get asked about the new health care law concerns how expanding health insurance coverage to millions of low-income families through Medicaid will affect those who already have insurance. “What will all of those new people with access to health care do to the rest of us? Will it make it harder to get access to our doctors? Will they clog up our emergency rooms and hospitals?”
As someone whose profession takes a strong position in favor of universal access to health care, I have a hard time saying anything but, “What a great problem to have!” It turns out to not even be a problem.
Massachusetts did this many years ago, as we are being frequently reminded, and the results are in. Use of emergency rooms is down, waiting times to see a primary care doctor are essentially unchanged and there has been a vast expansion in the use of preventive services: mammograms, colon cancer screens and prenatal care, for instance. Doctors and the people of Massachusetts overwhelmingly favor continuation of their program, and they are now proceeding to the really hard part: getting costs under control. Stay tuned!
An even more interesting experiment is being conducted in Oregon via an unhappy accident. Due to a shortage of funds, Medicaid eligibility was determined by lottery, creating a natural experiment of haves and have-nots. In the first year, those who were enrolled were 70 percent more likely to have a usual source of care, were 55 percent more likely to see the same doctor over time, received 30 percent more hospital care and received 35 percent more outpatient care, and much more.
Every doctor you know can tell you stories about how the lack of access to health insurance and health care has injured a patient’s health, life, limbs, finances or all of the above. I’ve had patients who work full time in jobs that fall far short of the American dream. They get by, but they can’t afford health insurance.
There’s the cabbie who recognizes his diabetes and determines to work harder and longer so he can buy insurance before he is stricken with the label even worse than diabetes: preexisting condition! He doesn’t make it and ends up in the ICU with diabetic ketoacidosis.
There’s the construction worker who has a controllable seizure disorder that goes uncontrolled. He ends up in the ICU multiple times.
There’s the woman who stays home to care for her dying mother and loses her insurance along with her job. When she finally gets to a doctor for herself, her cancer is far advanced.
So, for me and my profession, the most expansion for the most people is a best-case scenario. But others see expanding health insurance only through a short-term budgetary lens and consider covering nearly everyone a worst case.
For one thing, this view ignores the incredible deal states get when they accept Medicaid expansion. According to the Kaiser Foundation, by 2019 Pennsylvania would add about 482,000 new enrollees; another 282,000 who are eligible but don’t know it would come into the program. That’s more than three-quarters of a million people with access to care.
Critics point to the potential cost to the state of more than a billion dollars over six years. That’s a lot of money, but the federal government would pay more than $17 billion — over 94 percent of the cost. Furthermore, the additional billion would be only 1.4 percent more than Pennsylvania’s currently scheduled spending over that period. Even in a best-case scenario, with insurance for an additional 1.1 million Pennsylvanians, this figure would rise to only 2.7 percent.
One can choose to focus on the costs to the state and federal governments, but we spend many of those dollars already on the wrong end of the care continuum. Our governments already pay for patients who cannot pay for themselves, largely by cutting big checks to hospitals.
You can take care of a lot of diabetic cabbies for a lot of years for the cost of a stay in the ICU. Just because the costs don’t show up as a line item in a government budget — it could be labeled “Exorbitant Amounts of Money for Preventable Complications and Deaths” — doesn’t mean we don’t pay them.
A frequent talking point against expanding access to health care, “You can always go to an emergency room,” is actually dead on. Literally.
The law requires emergency rooms to treat and stabilize patients even if they have no means to pay. But no emergency room does cancer screening. Or prenatal care. No emergency room manages diabetes. Or congestive heart failure. As a result, many people don’t seek treatment until they are nearly dead.
Patients forgoing care or medicines because they can’t afford them simply shifts the costs from keeping people healthy to our extremely expensive system of “rescue care.” And remember, Massachusetts’ early experience and Oregon’s current experiment are showing the benefits to the entire system of getting people taken care of before they need an ER or ICU.
Not long ago, expanding access to health care was a nonpartisan goal. As recently as 2007, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators, including Republicans Jim DeMint and Trent Lott, wrote a letter to then-President George W. Bush pointing out that our health care system was in urgent need of repair. “Further delay is unacceptable as costs continue to skyrocket, our population ages and chronic illness increases. In addition, our businesses are at a severe disadvantage when their competitors in the global market get health care for ‘free.’ “
Their No. 1 priority? “Ensure that all Americans would have affordable, quality, private health coverage, while protecting current government programs. We believe the health care system cannot be fixed without providing solutions for everyone. Otherwise, the costs of those without insurance will continue to be shifted to those who do have coverage.”
Medicaid expansion, as well of the rest of the new health care law, represents our best effort so far in reaching these once-bipartisan goals. Pennsylvanians deserve an expansion of health insurance and health care, a healthier state, a healthier workforce and to continue the journey toward my profession’s goal: excellent, affordable health care for all.
Christopher M. Hughes practices intensive care and hospice medicine in Pittsburgh and is the Pennsylvania director of Doctors for America (www.drsfor america.org).

First Published October 4, 2012 12:00 am

Pa. Director Of Doctors For America Discusses Health Care « CBS Pittsburgh

Pa. Director Of Doctors For America Discusses Health Care « CBS Pittsburgh

I will immodestly say I did really well on this show. Mike is a very fair host and always nice to me.

I also did WESA’s Essential Pittsburgh yesterday, June 28:

http://www.essentialpublicradio.org/story/2012-06-28/affordable-care-act-decision-doctors-perspectives-11596

Cheers,

Interviews with KDKA and PCNC for Doctors for America

I had a couple of interviews with conservative talk hosts here in Pittsburgh Monday night on the Pittsburgh Cable News Channel with Kevin Miller and Tuesday morning on KDKA radio with Mike Pintek as representative for Doctors for America on health care reform. I thought I’d share, and perhaps get a little constructive input.

I have to say that I thought both hosts were fair to me, though the television host seemed to try to bait me into peripheral discussions [He is a moon landing skeptic, for instance!] while the radio host was more focused on getting detailed information out of me, which I appreciated.

The issues that seem to be the most concerning to conservatives, or at least get them the most stirred up, are those concerning the cost of the program and the impact on
the budget and, of course, taxes, the ceding of control of health care decisions, or rationing decisions, in their minds, to the dreaded government bureaucrats, and euthanasia. Believe it or not.

My response to the cost argument is the one you all know, that our current non-system costs way too much, far more than any other place on the planet, including the countries like
France and Germany who cover everyone, don’t ration in any significant way, and have no longer waiting times than our own.

Skepticism abounds about drawing any lessons on health care reform from other nations, as the utter failure, in the conservative mind, of Canada and Britain, necessarily precludes us from learning anything at all from them. I did manage to point out that while both Canada and England have had problems with their systems due primarily to inadequate spending, they did manage to insure everyone. I also pointed out that in Britain, since the liberal Labor Party took over from the Conservative Thatcher/Major governments, things have improved significantly on the waiting times front.

They expressed concerns about the cost of the Public Option being thrown about of a trillion dollars or more. In the context of health care spending currently of 2.4 trillion, one trillion over ten years, or 0.1 trillion per year does not seem like much. On the other hand, we are in danger of putting a layer of something that should be good over top a heap of a messed up non-system. I specifically agreed that Obama’s message that, if we were starting from scratch, single payer makes the most sense was true. “Government Bureaucrats!” Mr. Pintek played a clip of Barney Frank saying that if the public option were done well and performed well, it could very well lead to single payer. Mr. Pintek suggested that they were trying to be sneaky with this, but I suggested that if they were, this was not a very sneaky way to do it. But even if this was how it would turn out, where’s the harm? If the public option proves to be so wildly popular that private insurers get crowded out and the public in the end decides that perhaps this is the best way to provide health care, isn’t that a great thing? “Government Bureaucrats!”

So, rationing is next, and is always the real subtext of all of this. Both hosts were aware that insurance companies sometimes deny care, but neither seemed to consider that we
ration by income. I told both the story of a patient of mine who was a middle aged man, without insurance for quite a while. He’d had a cough for close to a year followed by an intermittently bloody cough for a couple months and then developed such difficulty breathing that he finally came to the emergency room and then into my ICU with respiratory failure. He had, by this time, metastatic lung cancer. I pointed out that while you can go to the emergency room for emergency care, the familiar canard of “they can just go to the emergency room,” rings hollow in nearly every basic health care situation. I paraphrased from a wonderful letter from the New York Times, and pointed out that ER’s don’t do cancer care nor manage asthma nor prenatal car nor diabetes and don’t do any of the things we think of when we talk about every day health care needs.

But what about government bureaucrats rationing health care? They both seemed disbelieving that this did not seem to concern me terribly. I argued that we could be well served by a commission made up of physicians who used comparative effectiveness research and analyzed the benefits and costs of treatment to help guide us , rather than medical directors at private health insurers making these determinations.

I regret that we did not get to end of life issues on the PCNC show, but we did on KDKA. I was asked what I thought of the House Bill and what it would mean to us with respect to Advance Directives and forcing the elderly to forego treatment. I think that it will finally make decent payment available for physicians to do Advance Care Planning, which is the term for having discussions on what a patient’s wishes are when they are at the end of their lives. This is a very good thing, something that physicians involved in EOL care have been advocating for for years because it is the right thing to do. I have EOL discussions with patients and families literally every day I spend in the ICU. Letting your family know what you want at the end of life is a great gift to them. I tell this to patients and families all the time and it is so true: these are agonizing decisions to make when you have not had these important discussions. If people think about this even for a minute, they will know it is true. I also pointed out that advance directives can go either way, and if you want every last treatment until they are nailing your coffin shut, you can specify that in your AD as well.

We took a few emails/calls on KDKA. The first was not so much supportive, as antagonistic to the host and the conservative listeners. Thanks, but no thanks for that email. The
second was from a nurse who wanted an “American” solution and seemed to resent my referring to France and germany, but in the end, seemed to agree that we needed reform and I think was OK with a
public option as a way to get there. I think it was at this point, Mr. Pintek caught me flat footed when he followed up and asked how Germany makes decisions on what is covered and what is not. I recalled that the benefits packages provide by the insurers there were standardized, but what I wasn’t aware of was that they have a commission that does do cost benefit analysis on treatments before they are approved as benefits. This commission has been accused of dragging its feet on new treatments, but this likely reflects a bias among many physicians to not adopt treatments until the evidence is solid. This has actually been studied in the US, and Massachusetts, with Harvard and Mass General and some of the finest health care in the world has this same regional bias and are slow to adopt new treatments. I’ll try to remember this for next time!

The last call was from a physician’s spouse who had heard me speak about Medicare and what I consider its adequate reimbursement. The host had said he thought the reimbursement was low and that some doctors would not accept it. I pointed out that, depending upon where in the country you practice, Medicare may be your best payer (Nevada, Southeastern PA) or at least, as in the Pittsburgh area where we are, not too far off from private insurance plans. I also pointed out the cost
of $82K per physician annually to deal with insurers and billing.

I had also pointed out that most doctors support some form of national health insurance, particularly PCPs and even a majority of general surgeons, but not some specialists like radiologists, anesthesiologists, and surgical specialists. I think she was a little peeved by that, because that’s what she started her comment with. She said that many doctors won’t take Medicare, and especially when they go to national meetings she hears this from people around the country. I have heard this before, even from fellow Doctors for America physicians telling me what they hear from colleagues. But if you look at what Medicare actually pays us, the regional variation is very small, with the exception of Alaska (the physicians of Alaska owe fromer Sen. Stephens for that). So whether Medicare fees look like a pittance to you or not has more to do with what your private insurers are paying you than what medicare is paying you. So, certainly physicians will look at a $150 fee from a private plan and a $100 fee from Medicare and conclude that Medicare may not be worthwhile. That is not unreasonable, but when you factor in the cost of dealing with private insurers, $82K per doc or about 14% of overhead, maybe Medicare is subsidizing the private plans! Anyway, I wish I’d had the presence of mind to ask what her husband’s specialty was!

Things I didn’t get to squeeze in but will try to next time:

  • “It is a mistake for any nation to merely copy another; but it is even a greater mistake, it is a proof of weakness in any nation, not to be anxious to learn from one another and willing and able to adapt that learning to the new national conditions and make it fruitful and productive therein.” Teddy Roosevelt, “Man in the Arena” The Sorbonne, Paris, France, 1910

  • Public
    opinion favors not only the public option, but national health insurance
    of some kind. And they are willing to pay more in taxes for it, even if this is phrased in such a misleading way in every polling I’ve ever seen.

  • England’s NICE, by analyzing cost of care in the context of benefits to patients has led to price reductions from pharmaceutical companies in order to meet their cutoff. And NICE can be pressured if it is felt to be making unwise recommendations.

  • Having an independent commission running Medicare, rather than Congress, might be quite an improvement.

  • If we do manage to get to a German or French style system, which party would be more likely to demand cost cutting resulting in longer waiting times and rationing of care?

  • I was asked about Massachusetts and demurred because I really don’t know enough to comment intelligently. I wish I had referred them to the PNHP site, as they have lots of information and intelligent critiques of what’s going on there.

And things to add from your comments will go here:

Presentation for Medicare 44th Anniversary

I gave a presentation in Avalon, PA on the occasion of the 44th Anniversary of Medicare, Thusday July 30, for Organizing for America. Thanks to everyone who came and were so kinly receptive to the talk, and of course to Terry, Al, Peter and Sylus for organizing things!

‘>The slides are here.

The references in the slides are all on this blog somewhere, just search in the upper left hand corner to find them.